I would love to know why so much of our road is given over to cyclist as they IMO seem to be the biggest traffic code violaters out there (red light jumping, lack of signalling before manouvers, riding on pavements etc etc), also they have no contribution scheme toward our road system as they pay no tax, have no insurance but yet seem to be awarded with 1/3 of our road space,(in central London at least) given large space at traffic lights to get ahead of everybody just to hold them up! I just wondered what makes them so f**king special.
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cyclists are human!
I have 2 cars (3 drivers in the family!) one motorbike and 2 push bikes.
I pay enough road tax (and contribute to the Sustrans charity that works with councils to build cycle lanes) thanks very much.
If you rode a push bike in town, you'd understand why sometimes at lights a cyclist will get a head start when the lights are still red. Basically because most car drivers have no respect or appreciation of those on 2 wheels of any sort.
People cycling on pavements, no lights, non-reflective gear or cycling with an mp3 player in drives me nuts though!
If more people road pushbikes the world would be a better place. Less pollution, less congestion and less obese people. And we would be saving the red-spotted newt.
P.S. I pay loads of road tax and insurance without paying for any for my pushbike.
This ain't about the enviroment or fat people! this is about protecting road users from cyclists.
Everybody pays road tax for a vehicle to use the road, why should it be different for those who CHOOSE to ride pedal cycles on our roads.
Everybody pays insurance for their motorised vehicles, how would that help if either of you hit me while riding your push bike on the road?
Let's not start on the fact there is no scheme to ensure these cycles are even fit to be on the road like the MOT.
"...this is about protecting road users from cyclists."
Really. So what are the current statistics for road users being injured by irresponsible cyclists. I think cyclists are the ones in greater need of protection which is why they have advanced boxes and are allowed to ride in buslanes. Sorry if it holds you up.
Do you really think that making cyclists pay for road tax, insurance and MOTs would be a positive move?
i use them cycle lanes
after filtering the big ques of cars i jump in the cycle box...
so i dont mind them build as meny as they want. easy riding i am on a cycle just got a engine attached ive even parked in front of traffic cop so it carnt be wrong to do so.. ive never seen a peddle cyclist use one yet
Nitro don`t be so hard on the cyclists and don`t wish any more rules and regulations on anybody .There`s plenty enough heading our way which we are constantly fighting against .We two- wheeler people should stick together ,after all we all rode cycles before becoming Motorcyclists and Scooterists .
Us cyclists pay more than enough via our cars ,motorcycles and Scooters to cover us . And don`t blame us all with the London problems, as we don`t all live there !
wht is the point of honda flash ?
and i ride in cycle lanes all the time.
payed tax and insurance, and went in a car parks and took the bay and paid the going rate, car drivers would still whinge, they are never satisfied,
good luck to them if they get cycle lanes, build enough and we could use them aswell,
what difference does it make if they get a jump at the lights or ride on pavement no big deal, " />" />" />
Would there really be stats for accidents involving cyclist as none of you have any insurance to file against? So really people dont get the claim off the ground in most cases.
As for cyclist being in greater need of protection, all I can say is put some F'ing clothes on, with armour. Instead you all ride around in lycra and spandex like it's tour de france! dont put yourselves at risk then piss and whine that it all so unsafe for you out there.
Finally yes I do think it would be a positive move to have cyclist who ride on the road and use their bike as a mode of transport especially during rush hours to have insurance minimum.
I don't ride around in lycra and spandex and I don't piss and whine.
Instead you all ride around in lycra and spandex like it's tour de france!
That's a bit like saying all bikers ride around in race-replica leathers thinking they're TT or GP riders...
In a collision with a vehicle, armour would do a cyclist next to no good, plus it is their responsibility to wear sensible clothing, helmets etc. as after all it is their life. Some cyclists do have insurrance, if their bike is worth it. As for 3rd party claims, what damage is a cyclist going to do to a vehicle other than cause a few scratches and bleed on it.
On a motorbike cyclists are no hold up at all and as previously mentioned their lanes are beneficial to us.
Road tax is justified by those if power, for up-keep of roads, to which cyclists cause no damage. In recent times we have had more money extracted from out pockets as a result of increased emissions being "related" to global warming. Cyclists have no emissions (some do) to speak of. So no I don't think they should pay.
Am with you Nitro
Think some of you have lost the plot, perhaps far to wealthy to have many cars, boats planes, tanks even ?
The point is as Nitro states and quite correct.
I have actually been knocked off my bike twice by cyclist in London and they p***ed off quick. On one occasion was quite bad, stopped at the lights, taking my time and BANG! Some twat of a cyclist hit my Throttle, handle bars twisted Reving all over the place.
Luckily I was not in gear, bike got dropped safely, as I watched the cyclist putting the V's up, off into the distance. A black cabbie helped me pick my bike up and said, 'Dont bover matey, Eco freindly cyclist no-where to be seen, not much you can do 'any owe...'.
As cyclist cannot be tracked, are not obliged to have insurance, nothing anyone can do, and the Police wont be interested thats for sure.
And the cost, why should my local council tax close off roads and pedestrian walk ways and spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on cycle lanes that are hardly used... why?,
Because most of the local government cycle to work from their subsidised houses. And those lucky enough to live near enough to cycle to work have the last say while the rest have no choice but to commute thousands of miles. So there ha ha ha
I saw a near miss between a cyclist and a motorcyclist this morning. It would have been the motorcyclist's fault. He was riding like a tit.
And if there were no bikes -
if they all were driving cars instead, would that make the likes of Nitro happy?
Good idea, try it! Tell us how you get on