If I'm accelerating from a junction in first gear and the front wheel starts floating up, am I liable to be prosecuted for an 'out of control wheelie' if the police see this? It's not a wheelie in my eyes, but the front wheel does come up by a foot because that's what bikes do when accelerating!
Police definition of a wheelie
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**I don't think there is **
any law against doing a wheelie as such ...but police will do you for not having proper control of your vehicle or some other such bollox ... in which case it will be down to the individual officer concerned if you are spotted. So it's probably not a good idea to do it in front of any police. I think it has been known to lead to a ban in some cases.
Having said that if the front only rises slightly and momentarily I doubt you would get done .... but best not put it to the test.
Save the shenanigans for quiet country roads.
discussion on the subject :-
If you are looking at things from a point of law, it could be held that your riding was without due care and attention/careless/inconsiderate but more likely to be a case of not being in proper control of your machine. Bikes have two wheels and as such are designed to have two wheels on the ground to achieve maximum stability. If the bike is on the back tyre, it could be argued that you have lost to crucial elements of the bikes safety ie braking and steering and without these you cannot be in full and proper control of the bike. The front wheel will only lift off the ground when too much throttle is applied and the laws of physics will transfer all that power to the back tyre and in return lift the front aloft!
Pulling wheelies is fun but best kept to places where such activity doesn't contravene the law ie the race track or other private property.
Heck Kam, I don't like the second post on the Aprilia forum, "A guy was done for a 6" high wheelie away from the lights and got a ban". That sounds so harsh, but that was the scenario I was talking about. There is one particular road near me which is quite bumpy in places, and at times has sent my front wheel up accelerating in second gear.
Well at risk of starting that old chestnut of unfair treatment towards bikes, I'll stop there, and be more gentle with the throttle!
Stevei, I used to practice wheelies off the clutch on an old airfield with my Fazer 600, but just as I was starting to get the hang of it, I discovered the chain really didn't appreciate my efforts, and I packed it in when I saw how much chains were, and how often I'd have to change it if I kept practicing!
... kind of knacker the front end too, given it's suspended, hanging by the forks before being slammed down pretty hard quite often. Bit of a lift now and again doesn't do much harm, but do it regularly and your maintenance bills will be high.
I wouldn't buy a bike off someone who bragged about what ace wheelies you can get out of it.
You can get ace wheelies out of anything on two wheels, whether it be a push bike, or a goldwing, so long as you know what you're doing!
Genuine question as you seem to be well versed in all this stuff...............
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Ok........ Say I am going down a country lane, 60mph limit. The road is straight, clear but has a brow that you can see over and can see that there is no obstructions, or vehicles in front of you or coming towards you.
You decide not to alter your speed and as you get to the top of the brow it lofts a good un..... Now it wasnt intentional, and it was basically down to the laws of physics.
Now where do I......sorry I mean we stand?
You sorry ...................we should not stand whilst the motorcycle is in motion as this constitutes you not being in control of the laws of fizziks. Therefore the police would be right in their execution of duty (only) in prosecuting anyone carrying out any such practice.
This is despite it being proven that being stood on the pegs does in some circumstances enhance the riders ability to control the motorcycle.
assumption is the mother of all f*** ups.
Heck Kam, I don't like the second post on the Aprilia forum, "A guy was done for a 6" high wheelie away from the lights and got a ban".
No, I thought that too - Totally OTT ..... frightening!
Accidental power wheely
I imagine it's mainly the long balancing wheelies the law is completely against.
In reality, lifting the front wheel and carefully placing it where you want it can actually help a bike get across a bumpy section.I learnt the technique on bumpy motocross tracks and I do it on my road bike across bumpy train tracks if i'm going fast as its smoother and doesn't unsettle the bike as much.It helps to slightly stand up and lift your arse off the seat too.Just be carefull when setting the front wheel back down, as if its out of line you could cause a tankslapper...
Obviously,If theres police and cars around etc i will slow down and go across the bumps with both wheels on the floor whilst smiling through gritted teeth
The only time I have ever done a wheelie wasn't long after passing my test. I was pulling away from traffic lights (a little too enthusiastically) and the front wheel came up and sods law there just happened to be a cop sat a couple of hundred meters up the road. It was at night and he must of seen the lights lifting up for a few seconds. He put his blue light on and pulled out in front of me and I sat behind him for about a mile until he deemed my riding Ok and turned off. Seems like I got away with it; probably because it was at night and he was too far away to see properly.
After this experience I've never tried pulling a wheelie.
Ouzo, you've just rekindled a favorite memory of mine, I was coming home once on my CG and I couldn't get it into first gear, I pulled up at a roundabout on the dualcarriageway and thought this is the last place I want to stall, so I revved it like a maniac to pull away thinking it was in second gear, and I did what must have been a 2ft wheelie, because of course, it had clicked into first gear without me knowing!
The onlooking people in their cars must have been as surprised as I was!
Police interpretate a wheelie as any time the front wheel is off the ground. Whether plod does you or not is down to the Copper and circumstances.
Like others I've pulled the occassional wheelie (try not to with tuned TL's, Tuono's, racing supermoto's etc!). Remember a time many years ago on my RG500 coming back from Oulton park, I was racing it but also riding it to/from the track. Saw plod by the side of the road and realised my pace was higher than I originally thought. Bike had cut slicks, race bodywork, race exhaust etc and I thought it might be confiscated (it did have a number plate though). Dropped a gear and went for it but hit the power band and went past plod on the bike wheel and largely out of control). Gassed it for about 4 miles then pulled into a wooded area on the side of the road expecting plod to come past fairly soon afterwards. They never even bothered to try and follow. After that I learnt to control my wheelies a bit more but seldom ever pull wheelies on the road.