Now that the winter is coming on heavily, does anyone know of any skid control courses?
Motorcycle Skid Control Courses
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Yes,it`s called speedway.
Not as such but...
The California Superbike School has a rig (the brake bike rig) which allows them to simulate slides. Looking on their website they use it on level3/level 4 to simulate front wheel slides and rear wheel slides respectively. On previous levels they use other simulators to examine your leaning etc. Their training comes very well recommended by the mags...
I would recommend doing some off road riding as well (preferably on an off road bike). You will slide both wheels
lots of times and get your reactions to do the right things.
Probably the best way to learn how to control a bike sliding around is by doing some off-road/moto-cross riding. I know that Honda and Yamaha used to do days for this, providing bikes and gear, accompanied by qualified instructors. With the relative low speed and lightweight machines, you will be amazed how much you learn...no wonder the circuit racers do it.
Winter? special training?
I've taken out my 125 and 650 in snow and floods and have been passing stuck cars and slipping and sliding along easily. This is all on uncleared roads.
Just keep your speed low, lots and lots and lots and lots of space, look ahead and make decisions early and take it very easy on the throttle. simple
also if you do skid at high speed i just kick the bike back up (15 years of martial arts focusing on kicking combined with expensive boots makes for a good slide recovery) before it drops too far and if its low speed on really snowy ground i slide my foot along the ground like a ski and gently apply pressure to right the bike. (Both methods are for when the bike is too far to "steer" it upright)
Re - cyclonite
your last reply reads -:
"also if you do skid at high speed i just kick the bike back up (15 years of martial arts focusing on kicking combined with expensive boots makes for a good slide recovery) before it drops too far and if its low speed on really snowy ground i slide my foot along the ground like a ski and gently apply pressure to right the bike. (Both methods are for when the bike is too far to "steer" it upright)".
You are fucking hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!
"You are f*ing hilarious"
Cool story bro.
Tell us another.
Snow + high speeds
with road tyres and attempts to correct like that = a recipe for a broken leg or death.
Please be careful before you learn that the hard way.
i was thinking about when the weather was bad, but now as there weather is warmer and summer is on the way then it not as need now.
high speeds as in high speeds for snow... i'm not talking about 65mph ..more like 30 at most any faster than that and you wouldn't have time.
I've done it a few times and as long as you keep the angles right you actually cant break anything, you'll just fall or you'r knee will bend because the weight is too much.
Re - Cyclonite
As I said earlier "fucking hilarious" you should be on the stage bud !!!!!!
I train in shotokan mate, i aint ever gonna kick the tarmac to correct 1/4 of a ton of bike! (Regardless of speed!)..
I have never heard so much shit since the world champion shit talker came into shitsville on a shitzuki !!!!!!!
Got to say though, it makes funny reading!
We kick alot and therefore likely have stronger legs?
Also, got the technique from a video i saw - Swedish military (or Norwegian) were riding bikes in the same fashion i described in a snowy forest.
They are trail bikes, which weigh nothing. And he was nowhere near losing it. He put his foot down as he shat himself, I doubt his foot even saved it.
You try that at 30 mph (as you stated) on your SV on road tyres, on snow. You wont have the time to start thinking WTF, as your arse will be overtaking your head!! You wouldnt be saving fook all with your feet.
I've said it before on here regarding another troll that is now fortunately banned. Its people like you giving shit advice that causes more problems to people that are genuinely seeking help, but dont know any better. I can see a good percentage on here know that you dont have a clue about what you are on about, or, maybe you are just delusional and believe what you are saying. Its just worrying that some genuine people that dont know any better may take some of your dumb ass advice.
Keep asking the questions mate. It looks like you need all the knowledge you can get. But leave the advice to the ones that actually have ridden for a few years and know what they are on about.
I will now sit back and expect a barrage of abuse off you. Been there, done it. Sorry, but the truth hurts, and most on here know how I feel about people giving shit advice.
Well said fuzzrr, the advice this guy (cyclonite or is it physcocyclist) gives is downright dangerous, be better keeping his delusional thoughts to himself.
I don't know much and I am by no means a riding god, but this kicking the foot down or whatever sounds hideous.
Trouble is you bet your bottom dollar someone will try it just to see.
Mods might be a good idea to remove this before someone hurts themselves
i my wait til next winter before i learn to ride in bad weather
some of you people are quite slow.
I hope you pay more attention on the roads or in june and july (when most of you will take your bike out maybe once or twice and sit at a cafe' all day and talk like you're rossi's manager) there will be an awful lot holes in hedges and repair work for your bike dealership.
If you actually read my post the part where i give advice is : "Just keep your speed low, lots and lots and lots and lots of space, look ahead and make decisions early and take it very easy on the throttle. simple "
The part where i give an example of what i personally do and what works for me does not say "try it sonny" or anything similar." />
SV650 - 165kg -too heavy
KTM 950 super enduro - 190kg -light enough to go off road
and baby-blade try reading any one of the 3 disclaimers on the forum to see that the advice in this thread does not constitute professional advice ans should not be treated as such.
It's funny how i've put forth my own opinion, based on experience and then backed it up with facts and sources and all you lot come back with is
"your arse will be overtaking your head!!"
Now if any of you would like to check out the picture and maybe learn something.
hello GIZZABREAK I see you've been let out again.
assumption is the mother of all f*** ups.