Cager: epic fail.
Things that happen when riding a bike...
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IMO only, the guy on the bike was too close to that car.Always expect them to open the car door.
No one is innocent but some are more guilty than others,,
... but given that the car was stationary (with the AA van right behind it), the motorcyclist thought rightly to get round it and go up front... I think he would have been at fault if riding further away from the car, giving himself a chance to end up in the path of vehicles turning into the road (just seconds prior to the accident, you see a car coming down the road in the opposite direction)... I think the driver, given that he was anxious to get out of the car to speak to the AA man, forgot to do the basic blind spot check and, sadly, did not foresee the consequence of his action...
It would be interesting to know what we would have done in the motorcyclist's shoes (boots!)... Wait until the lights changed and THEN go round the AA van and the stationary Merc.? Hmm
I would have joined the queue
and waited for the lights to change. There again I wouldant have gone down that street just to turn around and come out again.
Rider: "The cager will see me approach";
Cager: "There is nobody coming up from the side, surely"
No one's blameless
The rider having taken a wrong turn was in a hurry to make up for lost time so headed straight to the front, nothing wrong with that but maybe he forgot the necessary caution when filtering.
The driver (I hate the term 'cager') didn't look properly, if at all and...well you saw what happened.
Best thing would probably be to each agree to fix your own and leave it at that. I certainly wouldn't post it on youtube and get sanctimonious about it
but I suppose there is an imbalance:
flick of the door for driver = no problem;
flick of a driver's door in a biker's path = injury or even death...
Remember this one?
Makes you think, hm...
Just noticed something else which I wouldn't have done.
He turned left into that street, then in his commentary he stated that he took the first left and that it had been a mistake. So assuming that he was intending to take a later left turn he would have to take a left at the lights where he had the collision to get back on the main road.
So why did he pull up on the right hand side of the merc? The merc was right up at the stop line so the furthest he could have got was level with the wing mirror, the driver could have been intending to turn right, the rider turning left and that would have been another collision.
I know what you're saying but that's more call for us to look out for ourselves, we all know the risks with manoeuvers (never could spell that ), like that and we all have lapses of concentration, as do drivers. In this guy's case enough factors came together for him to have a wee tumble. I know he was lightly injured but it could have been worse.
Now that I watch it again I see that the car was actually driving up to the lights, it was not stationary...
My assumption is that the AA van was there for the car, because the driver opened the door while waiting for the lights... Whether he intended to leave the vehicle, it is another story...
The AA van did not have flashing lights on, and was not indicating - neither was the car (both heading straight, potentially)...
The jury is out... I still think the driver should have looked... If they were intending to get out of the car, they should have parked up by the side of the road first anyway. I happen to think you are right in saying the biker was hurrying, trying to get back to the main road after a wrong turn...
Hindsight is a wonderful thing , hm? " /> We are all so clever sitting at our computers " />
Yep it sure is! I'm sure if the circumstances had been different he may have assessed the situation differently and...well...you don't need me to explain hindsight!
I am off to bed though
**Quite possibly the driver **
may not have shut his door properly, and an expensive car like that is going to be making pinging noises and flashing a light at the driver, so not seeing anyone coming into the turning yet and being nearly or entirely stationary it would be instinctive to swing the door open and close it again? An error of judgement on the part of the driver to not assume there might be a cyclist or motorcyclist coming past and not look.......but!.......the motorcyclist has come alongside rapidly, too close to the car, and in an ill advised maneuver in an attempt to be at the front to beat the car and van from the lights, had there been another car or worse a van or lorry turning into the junction from his right he would have had nowhere to go, and at the least been an obstruction, and possibly hit by that vehicle.
Bad decision making, as Dave says, get behind them, there really isn't room to be sneaking up either side of the vehicles in a road that narrow, might get away with it, might not as this shows! There's almost always another opportunity to pass on a motorcycle, further up the road.
far too close to the car, and coming down there a bit fast for my taste.
Even if the driver did look in the mirror, he had the van behind, which may have obscured the rider anyway.
Constructive self-criticism is important in these scenarios: chances are that even if an accident (or near miss) is not your own fault, there is often something to be learned on both sides, but prevention is always better than cure. Its one piece of filtering that I wouldn't have carried out.
**the rac van **
had its reverse lights on when he nipped behind it first error .... second error he tried to get at the front of the q putting himself in a vunerable position at the junction what a fukkin wazzok i would have waited in the q behind other vehicles .... i bet this is a despach rider
**and he was on the phone **
at the time ..... personally i hate any destractions whilst riding my bike you need your wits about you ....otherwise you become unstuck very quickly
guy in cars fault
its the guy in the cars fault for opening the door and not looking and thats how the law see's it as well experience: cousin opened door to taxi and hit a passing car and was told to pay for it by insurance and police and lawyer as she caused damage to property and it doesn't matter if car/bike is going up the wrong way or on wrong side of street because you opened the door and there for caused the damage and accident
but admit the guy made some dangerous mistakes like going past van with reversing lights on but regardless guy in car is at fault regardless if the guy was to close to the car or not