Hello, basically i'm looking to get some sort of 125 (probably a scooter) and i'm a bit stuck.. I would obviously like to spend as little as possible but I do want to get a decent bike so i'm willing to spend a decent amount of money (up to about 2000) I have mainly been looking at the aprillia sr, piaggio typhoon and gilera runner as i want something nippy, reliable and good looking. I would preferably get something on finance (from a dealership) or even something new but i don't really know enough about bikes and stuff to know what is best to do and to be able to understand the pros and cons of buying a new bike or what not, any advice would be very much appreciated.
First bike dilemma (125)
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tend to be a balancing act - spending enough to try and get a decent bike, but bearing in mind that you'll almost inevitably drop the thing at some point; the more you spend, the more gutting it'll be.
First off, consider insurance: as a newbie, this will be your biggest sticking point.
Secondly, is there a particular reason that you're looking for a scooter over a geared bike?
Thirdly, don't forget you'll need some kit if you haven't already got it (helmet / gloves / jacket etc), especially if you're using it all year; being cold and wet on a bike saps concentration. Remember also that you'll need security - small bikes are far more vulnerable to theft than a big bike and are seldom recovered when they do get stolen.
Thanks for the quick reply.
For insurance I thought it would be roughly the for any 125, is that completely wrong then? I'm leaning towards choosing a scooter just for simplicity and easy of use really and it just seems like a scooter should be more reliable as there's less to go wrong I would of thought. Yeah i'll definitely be investing in gloves, and a jacket when I get a bike that's for sure! I have to do a bit of research into which lock or whatever is best to buy but i will definitely be putting something around the wheels.
depends on a multitude of factors, not just the bikes size or performance. Age, experience, the bike itself and its value, the cost of repair in a claim, your postcode (theft risk) and even your occupation all contribute to setting insurance premium levels.
Factor in the cost of a drop and availability of parts when you buy - most people drop bikes at some point and you want a bike you can source parts for - not always easy with the Chinese bikes out there.
If you're planning to buy on finance, bear in mind that finding the payment every month might be unfunny if you unexpectedly find yourself out of work - the bike belongs to the finance firm until its paid off.
If you're buying new, bear in mind the depreciation will be a big hit in the first 12 - 18 months; if you plan to keep the bike it doesn't matter so much, if on the other hand you're planning to sell it on after a while the depreciation should be accounted for.
If you stick to the known brands (Aprilia / Piaggio / Peugeot / Yamaha / Suzuki / Vespa), you won't go far wrong.
definitely go for a bike rather than a scooter. I started out this time last year and bought a Yamaha YBR 125 Custom having initially intended to buy a scooter. Dead easy to ride and a manual gear box gives better fuel consumption than a twist and go scooter.
Bought mine new and given my time again I would have bought a fairly new used bike - I'll take a depreciation hit when I sell (to buy a bigger bike) in the next month. The Custom is only group 2 insurance and I get 100mpg easily.
There you go Fizzee
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Thanks for the tips regarding the insurance, I didn't realise it would vary so much for a 125. The thing that would make me more inclined to get a bike rather than a scooter would be the fact I may look to get a bigger bike at some point but it's not something that is for definite. If I did go for a bike I think I would more likely get myself a Yamaha YZF or a DTr with the YZF probably coming out of top, just out of interest what do you guys think/know about those bikes? Also with the mpg do you think I would get better milage with say a YZF than just a Gilera Runner?
depends where you're riding
if open roads then agree geared bike much much better, but if commuting in London, save yourself the hassle and get a scoot.
I had a series of Gilera Runners for commuting, 125 & 200s and they were great, no hassle with clutch just point and squirt, nothing gets above 40 in London rush hour anyway, so easily the best choice
Mileage will not be that different in town, as all slower speed, start stop stuff anyhow. Be honest, all depends on mileage done, if low then will you notice a couple of quid each week (less that a can of beer!)
Thanks everyone for the help, at the moment i'm actually leaning towards getting myself a Yamaha YZF R125, i'm mainly looking on bike trader for trader only ads (I feel a bit safer buying seconnd hand from a dealership).