Get this guy on question time with Mr Farage
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I predict a riot
Been kinda quiet for you lately CJ.
Any bets on the first negative responder?
Isn't that the new service from the Ambulance Service. Chap turns up, blue lights flashing, looks down at you shakes his head and draws a deep intake of breath before telling you not to buy any LP's.
The voices in my head may not be real
But they do have some good ideas
Nationalism and patriotism are not the same thing.
Nobody would deny your right to be proud of your fathers service record but you are missing an important point. The Nazis were nationalists, the facist movement were/are nationalists. Your father was fighting rampant nationalism. The British troops of WW1 and WW2 are done a disservice by association to nationalism and also by association to the war in Afghanistan.
Vulc, as meatbingo says there is a huge difference between nationalism and patriotism.
Whilst I support our troops, I don't support the reasoning behind sending them there, and unfortunately, getting killed doesn't automatically confer heroism. Getting killed whether on military service or not makes you dead. Sad but true.
I don't denigrate either past or present servicemen/women, I think its a tough job getting sent to fight with your hands behind your back for largely political reasons.
As ever, its just an opinion. You're as entitled to yours as I am to mine.
this may help
**1. **devotion and loyalty to one's own nation;
**2. **excessive patriotism; chauvinism.
**3. **the desire for national advancement or
**4. **the doctrine or policy of asserting the interests
of a particular nation over the interests of other nations.
**5. **a movement, as in the arts, based upon the folk
idioms, history, aspirations, etc., of a nation.
devotion to one's own country and concern for its defence
do not get these 2 words confused with racist
**1. **The belief that race accounts for differences in
human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to
**2. **Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
**1. **often Fascism
**a. **A system of government marked by centralization of
authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the
opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent
nationalism and racism.
**b. **A political philosophy or movement based on or
advocating such a system of government.
**2. **Oppressive, dictatorial control.
then you have plonkerisam
Slang a stupid person
..No. In this instance, dictionary definitions of the words 'nationalism' and 'fascism' don't help at all.
Nobody suggested they meant the same thing.
vulc, little touchy! I happen to find Doug stanhope funny.
It would be a sad little world if we all shared the same sense of humour. Or in some cases completely devoid of any.
You completely missed what stanhope had to say. I am the first to respect the fallen of ww1 and ww2.
Just for the record osc was always asking me to join this lovely forum, I never came on here to cause anyone hassle.
When we split I lost my mechanic, my first post on here was on technical asking for advice.
As for the wooden spoon. That goes to you for dredging up my past. my post was not personal, yours was
**Cheap shot **
To try and get your point across Rog me thinks it's you who should get the spoon
I don't usually post
on topics like this but..... it's very sad when anyone loses their life either in the army or wherever, but everyone has a choice at the job they do now.
My Dad and grandfather had conscription and didn't have that choice.
Vulc, also a bit below the belt as well I might add
Vulc this time I can not concur with your reply. My opinions on the politics behind these conflicts I may not agree with, but if you choose to sign up then you know what you are signing up for, you can't pick and choose your deployments.
If you don't want to do it, then don't sign on the dotted line.
CJ thought that was quite an amusing clip
Good clip... made me laugh...
Vulc - You are out of order on this one.
CJ didn't mention anything about our troops so why are you bringing them into this?
As for 'the wooden spoon' ? - If CJ is guilty of 'shit stirring' by posting a link that is 'anti UKIP'..then you are a double shit-stirrer for your previous postings in support of them. Politics will always divide people - and you can't have it both ways.
Btw. I don't recall you ever complaining about all the 'shit stirring' threads started by that cunty mate of yours 'babyrocket'.
Just calling a 'spade a spade'..." />..facts are facts.
You didnt just
disagree, you got personal! There is a big difference.
Oh sir sir I still have your Pm's. I'm gonna blab sir. I'm sure they were personal pm's to you huh vulc. Christ, how old are you
pull back, I think you've said your piece and it wasn't really relevant to the OP.
I responded as I felt you had gone off the rails slightly
Personal....?????? Oooooo !!!!
I nearly choked on my E-cig...
Say what ever you want Vulc,because everyone else does.Weather its below the belt or not..
"If i need the Moon, ill bring it down myself"...
If it's free for all
where shall I start
I have posted doug stanhope on here before, and some quite liked his humour. Sorry should I gain your permission in the future or maybe i could send you a draft and you could edit it for me! I could have sworn wars were fought for democracy. My mistake
Below the belt, Hahahahaha. Generally is on here! quite literally
**I just didn't see the connection on **
the OP, don't mind me I look after me and mine first and formost and anything /anyone else will be on a priority basis
Anywhere you like.. i could do with a laugh...
"If i need the Moon, ill bring it down myself"...
Dont tempt me