never really had much thought on the positives of ABS but after a full blooded both brakes jammed on from 100mph to avoid being squashes by an errant 40 ton lorry on the M6 late this afternoon i now do believe ABS is in fact a life saver, still not keen on the linked braking system they put on the vfrs and blackbirds ABS is much more of a safety leap forward than i would ever have believed.
Im a believer
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You only need them once......but boy do they save yer skin...... I..... however never exceed the given speed limit in this Country........didn't know Germany had an M6 too......." />
are we talkin to ourselves again mr snev?
only bike i've had with Abs
was a bmw k75 back in the early 90's when it was well and truely in it infancy as a technoligy. have to say it wasn't up to much then.
Havent ridden a bike with it since! have an open mind to be honest as i'm not a fan of the current digital revolution, but as the next bike i get is likely to be the 675r i will have it on the next bike!
chances are though that all new bikes will have to have it before much longer!
had i been on a non ABSbike im pretty sure something would have let go, full stamp on the rear usually gets em wriggling about but nothing just controlled fast and safe slow down, i love it now would not be without it.
I do believe we may well be........ A while back I spotted a well hidden member of the "Highway Robbery department and locked the Busa's front at about.....?35...proper messed me Thong.....(Hi Rosey)I did.......
the vfr800 sideways one day because some copper at the side of the M4 started pointing a gun at the van driver in front. Twat just stood on his brakes, shit- a- brick and just through the baby into space! then slammed on as I realised the shooter was now pointing the gun at me!
ABS didn't trip in so at the next service station stopped to remove the skid marks from my attire and looked for the ABS ratchet thingy ...ha not present.
So a couple of lessons learnt
1. Do not wear white undies, shit cannot be easily scrapped from them easier to to bin them.Wet wipes are handy
2, Don't rely on ABS if you haven't got it
3. Keep well away from insane van drivers -they can stand on brakes without warning
4. Next bike to have an invisibility cloak when under radar attack.
5. Linked brakes aren't bad
'WHO CARES WE NEVER WIN...........'
I had ABS
on my BMW. Felt most peculiar when it was working, although it only kicked in twice while I had it. It was quite a primitive version though.
The Street Triple doesn't have it, but I'm sure it has far better stopping power, even without. Maybe it just feels safer as it's nearly new.
I would be happy to have another bike with ABS on though.
I've not ridden anything with linked brakes, so can't comment on that.
Had a harley with ABS..
why would you need ABS on a bike with brakes that don't work thinks I.Turns out it stands for Anchor Both Sides,you just chuck em out and hope to stop
a reason I'm considering a CBR600RR as it has a fancy linked ABS system. Whilst I like being in control I know from experience that you go to pot in an emergency very easily. Playing computer games and finding someone leap out at you and you spray a gun everywhere is a simple example. Wouldn't it be handy to have a gun that you were in control of except when someone lept out at you and it automatically reacted? At the very least minimising the damage if not getting the carefully considered headshot you'd get in a nice planned attack.
Same with ABS - my BMW has a crappy system that didn't kick in and left a skid mark when I needed it but kicks in occasionally when I don't (used to do it all the time on the rear but since I adjusted the shock for my weight it's much better). The system on the CBR takes over in an emergency and will use both front and back brakes together so it gives you the best possible stop. Whilst I'm sure that a racer or someone experienced could beat it in testing I wonder how well they'd cope with that when the shit really hits the fan and you panic.
I think for real, every day riders in real conditions this kind of technology saves crashes and possibly saves lives. For those of you who think you can do better than ABS - it's certainly possible and experienced riders have shown in tests that they can. BUT can you beat it and stay on the bike when your fight or flight response kicks in when it's wet in those milliseconds before the adrenaline even gets chance to be excreted, never mind kick in? How sure are you of that? I ride all year round in any weather and know I can control a skid but I still doubt I could beat ABS.
Obviously if I did get the CBR, I'd have to stop riding in the snow... I don't think it'd cope and the ABS is locked on so you can't deactivate it when you're being an idiot and riding it on ice.... or mud.... or snow.
I'd love to take a CBR off road. If it wasn't mine or I was rich beyond words.
EDIT: The CBR600F has the same system.
I Have to Agree.....did about 35000 miles or so on my Blackbird...not to mention my previous two CBR1000F's.....never had a moment due to CBS...... to be honest.
**only had **
one moment on my blackbird and that was down to slates heaped in the middle of the road in wales, no chance of dabbing the front when leaned right over so just dab the back brake to tighten her up , whooosh front end slipped away, not sure how we stayed on two wheels ,but we did and for me thats just not good enough, when the rider isnt in full control, bought the de-link kit for 100quid ,but sold it anyway , it had a lasting effect on my opinion of linked brakes, they may be ok in a car but its not very often you get the car on full lean at 90 mph+, sooner have the option rather than be told its the way forward.
I like the idea of front and back brakes working together in an emergency stop but I don't like the idea of them being permanently links and one always applying the other. If I want just rear because I'm going down a snowy hill, then I want JUST REAR, not whatever Honda think is best for most circumstances.
i'm with you on the linked brakes
but then i don't use the rear brake, never have never will
**it certainly saved **
a nasty this afternoon thats for sure i can still see that effing green hulking trailer with china shipping emblazoned on the side just flick the indicator on and pull out ffs did i stamp and tug at the brakes, and with a few clickety clicks i was going backwards faster than forwards to avoid the coming together, bastard lorry driver even had the nerve to flick me the v, ok i might have been a tad over the limit but at 3.30 it wasnt as if it was busy.