after using the same garage since 1979 i was asked to remove my helmet according to new texaco rules obviuosley i am upset about this because if i was a moslem lady? would i be asked to remove my veil/yashmak
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we got bloody cso's lurking in our garages .. cctv and big warning signs dont stop the drive off's .. wonder y?? lol ...anyway..
i filled up 1 day and walked in.. the cso says.. can u take ur helmet off .. i says " i got a £7,000 bike outside... im wearing about a £500 worth of kit... ive got £10 in my hand to pay for me fuel.. wot would i possibly want to pinch from this shitehole ..?? "
he just put his head down and walked away !!
I did chuckle
Use someone else...
To take my helmet off I have to take both gloves and my glasses off and its just too much effort (particularly as I fill up once a day). If a petrol station forced me to do that I wouldn't use them again.
When possible I always use TESCO and pay at the pump.
Is it really that much hassle?
Personally mate I think it's pretty reasonable for them to ask you to take your helmet off before you enter their store. Dunno what gear you're using but it takes me 10 seconds to get my helmet and gloves off and even with the most fiddly fasteners ever you should be able to do it in less than a minute.
I know that when I'm in my full bike gear I can look a fairly intimidating character with my armoured jacket, carbon knuckled gloves and aggressive looking black helmet and I can fully understand why walking into a store with all that lot on might make the cashier a little nervous!
Like andy said, if you really want to streamline your petrol stops then head for somewhere that has Pay@pump, much easier.
sancov, I've never seen a Muslim lady riding a motorcycle, not here, Afghan or Iraq. I also think its reasonable for the staff to ask you to take your helmet off, !!! With todays society being the way it is I would assume that they are prehaps more than a bit nervous at the best of times, with the risk of some shi*head sticking a gun in your face for a free meal. I allways take my helmet off, firstly cause its refreshing, and secondly courteous.
armed robberies are usually carried out by people not concealing their faces at all or wearing a stocking or a balaclava, not an helmet LOL
I don't agree that we have to take the helmet off. I personally have not been asked to so far, but if I was asked I would do so and then tell them it is the last time they'll see me in their shop and go somewhere else.
I am SURE that if I went with a hat and big dark sunglasses and a scarf they would not tell me anything and yet they would not be able to see my face if I was to do an arm robbery, so what's the difference I ask myself?
Not again ffs
How many times has this got to come up on these forums?
Would you walk into a bank, building society or post office wearing a helmet? Not if you wanted to get served!
Common courtesy & good manners, you're going indoors so take your bloody hat off
Fine, do as they ask, and then take your time replacing all your gear, right at the desk. Don't move over 'till you're fully dressed. Then make a mental note to not go back, it's not a BIG deal. Falling off your bike IS ... dropping your bike IS, but taking your lid off... If that is what you moan about your life must be so full of stress how do you get up in the morning. Just move on and worry about the important issues in life.
whats the prob
i haven't been asked to remove my lid yet but ,but we have to have some respect for there wishes and guidelines ,come on we get enough of a bad press as it is !!!!! use pay at the pump
I was asked once, so I took my trade to the garage across the road. I know that BP have backed down from this. If you have no choice, annoy them as much as possible. Carrying a sorn off would have the desired effect.
MZ.250. Nice. I had an old Trophy back in about 1972. Would keep up with my mates YDS7 Yam, up to 70. Gear box was a bit iffy though. Thought it was equal to the rest of the bike. Can't think why?
Any one got a Trophy they would like to sell?
I was asked to remove my helmet in a corner shop - i flipped the front of my Caberg up but they said it wasnt enough - i had to take the helmet off. I refused and they politely asked if i would remove it next time i shopped there, i told them there wouldnt be a next time......." />
No problems with my local Tesco petrol station, I just flip up my helmet front so the cctv can see my face.
Get this then, at my local garage I filled 3 work vans a week, my own car and both my bikes. I bought my lunch there every day and was in most evenings buying booze and fags etc. I was even seeing one of the managers socialy (if you catch my drift). All this for 2years, before they wouldn't let me fill the bike up whilst sitting on it (even with my lid removed). I pointed out that I can't fill it up properly while it's on the side stand and shouldn't they know me well enough having spent about £300 quid a week there for 2 years?
All they said was company policy blah blah blah!
company policy? why? in case you decide to 'ride off' after filling up? so what? CCTV will have got your licence anyway! I can't stand rules with no reason behind them
I pointed out that is wasn't a good policy because they've just lost £1200 worth of business a month. Haven't gone back there in 3 years.
Worse than that though I recently went into a garage to buy fags. When I walked in the assistant was adimant I had fuel to pay for. After saying about 12 times I hadn't put fuel in, I asked him what fuel it was.
£50 Diesel came the reply! I just caleed him a tw*t and walked ou in the end.
£50 of Diesel in a bike, what bike do you have by the way?
At that time I was on an SV650s and had a Diversion as a run about, but now have a t595 Daytona.
Still keep the Divi as a run about though.
Personally, it depends on what jacket I am wearing.
If I am wearing my summer jacket, my gloves fit over the cuffs so removing a glove and my lid is no hassle.
If I am wearing my winter jacket, the cuffs are too thick for my gloves to fit over the top, so I have to fit them underneath. Therefore, my usual method of getting dressed would be lid, gloves, jacket. Subsequently, removing my lid for a 30sec transaction become a pretty major deal.
That said, I rarely have issues when using petrol stations. B & Q are another matter (see post on the subject (some 15months ago)).
Hi, apart from the common courtesy of removing your helmet, I work in a petrol station and I can get a disciplinary warning for not asking a biker to remove his helmet - 3 warnings and the sack. Generally I don't, and if the management says anything I just say I know the biker in question and trust him, but it would make life so much more pleasant for all us behind the counter if bikers could remove their helmets. I always do. Cheers
guilty until proven innocent...
no i wont take my helmet off. If that means the pump isn't authorised then I'll go elsewhere. If it means they're gonna ask me everytime I go into the kiosk then I still won't remove it. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!FFS!
When ALL people have to remove headgear inc' turbans and hijabs(excuse the spelling ta.) and also including police, any other religious gumph, people freezing their tits off and wearing a balaclava etc etc then I'll take it off. I'm not trying to be awkward here but whats good for one is good for the other (as my dad always used to say). We are apparently ALL equal in the eyes of the law so if ANYONE at all can be trusted to pay without showing their face then so should bikers. It's a matter of principal. Whilst I'm at it; "common courtesy" is a choice, it's NOT the law, if I want to be discourteous that is MY choice. I agree with EasyNinja completely and as for Kestrel69 "Common courtesy & good manners, you're going indoors so take your bloody hat of" Hat? FFS, what planet are you on?
Fcukin worlds gone mad